Hey guys, I'm just having a few queries while doing this
stuff.
I've come across an exercise which asks you to find the proper
subgroups of a given set which forms a group. Do you have to write
up an operation table to do this? If not, how else can you approach
such a question.
Plus, theres other exercises involving isomorphisms etc. Do we have
to write up operation tables up for these to?
Writing up the operation tables is so tedious!
Hi, writing up operation tables is only
really useful for groups of small order.
One of the most useful tools is Lagrange's theorem, which states
that for a finite group G, the order of a subgroup H must divide
the order of G.
Lagrange's theorem can be utilised in various ways.
For instance, if G has prime order p then it has no proper
subgroups since only 1 and p divide p.
Further, note that if x is an element of G of order n then
[1,x,x2,..,xn-1]is a subgroup of G order n.
Hence applying Lagrange to H, we see that if x is in H then n |
|H|. This helps to find all possible subgroups of a given
order.
Tell me the particular group you're dealing with. I don't recall
ever writing up operation tables for groups of order larger than
6.
Ian
Could you explain what you were saying in your second last
paragraph, it just doesnt make sense yet.
Instead of me giving you an example, could you explain to me the
methods of finding subgroups of a given group. Especially of those
groups with higher orders than 6 or so.
Thanks
Yes, the 2nd to last paragraph is no good
at all.
The only point I was trying to make was that the order of an
element divides the order of a group (since if xn=1 and
n is smallest such, then [1,x,x2,..,xn-1] is
a subgroup of G with order n therefore n | |G|). Does that make
sense? How much group theory have you done before?
Finding all subgroups of a given group G is a decidedly non-trivial
exercise. There are no simple general methods and usually subgroups
are identified utilising a variety of different results.
Lagrange's theorem is the most fundamental result.
A more advanced, but very useful technique comes through using
Sylow's theorems. For instance, one of these theorems says that if
p a prime and pr | |G| then there is a subgroup of G of
order ps (s £r). I
could state Sylow's theorems in full generality, but the proofs are
long.
So finding subgroups becomes easier when you know more group theory
and hence can apply different techniques. Here are some pointers
though (with Lagrange's theorem):
(1) Prime order groups have no proper subgroups, as previously
noted.
(2) Groups order pq (p,q prime) have proper subgroups of orders p
and q, but their may be lots of them. (Similarly groups orders with
not many prime factors are more tractable).
(3) There is another theorem (proven from Lagrange) that the only
groups of order 2p (for p prime) are the 'cyclic' and 'dihedral'
groups (there're only 2 possibilities). These groups are
respectively all possible rotation and rotations+reflections of a
p-gon (rotations and reflections that fix the p-gon). Are these
groups familiar?
(4) Bear in mind that if A and B are groups then AxB (A cross B) is
also a group, so this is an efficient way of describing
groups.
(5) Note that all even order groups must contain an element of
order 2. Otherwise we could pair off elements of the group with
their inverse (x and x-1 distinct when x not identity as
not order 2) giving an odd number of elements in total (lots of
pairs plus single identity).
Here I have indicated some brief ideas. Sylow theorems are not
examined in Cambridge until the 3rd year for undergraduates (proofs
long), just to indicate the level we're looking at.
Tell me if you want more information. An eminent group theorist in
Cambridge said to me that he used to, "love calculating all groups
of small orders when he was an undergraduate" (slightly different
question, but I keep thinking of it). Generally integers with lots
of prime factors are harder.
Ian